8.131. Sedevacantists seem divisive and rebellious. The pope is the supreme pontiff and can't be judged—who gave you the authority to reject him?

This question reflects a genuine concern for the papacy, but it is built on a false premise: that a public heretic can still be the pope, and that faithful Catholics may never reject a heretical claimant, no matter how blatantly he contradicts the Faith. But the Church has always taught that a heretic cannot be a member of the Church—much less its head. Sedevacantists are not judging a true pope—they are recognizing that a manifest heretic cannot be one.

Sedevacantists do not reject the papacy—we defend it. We fully believe that the pope is the supreme visible head of the Church, the Vicar of Christ, and that no one can judge him if he is truly pope. But if a man publicly teaches heresy, he ceases to be Catholic—and therefore cannot be pope at all.

We are not judging a pope—we are recognizing a fact: that a public heretic cannot be a member of the Church, and thus cannot be the head of it. This is not an act of rebellion, but of obedience to Catholic teaching.

As St. Robert Bellarmine, Doctor of the Church, taught:

A manifest heretic is deposed from the papacy by himself, because he ceases to be a member of the Church, and therefore cannot be its head.
— St. Robert Bellarmine, Doctor of the Church, De Romano Pontifice, II, c. 30
Category Traditional Catholic Teaching Objection from Vatican II Critics Remarks
The Papacy Established by Christ; supreme in jurisdiction and teaching Must be accepted no matter what he teaches True popes must be Catholic—not public heretics
Can the Pope Be Judged? No—if he is truly pope, no one may judge him So we must accept him even if he teaches error A heretic **ceases to be pope on his own, and **may be recognized as such
Judging Heresy All Catholics must reject heresy, even from a bishop or cardinal Judging a “pope” is beyond any layperson’s role We don’t judge the pope—we judge **manifest heresy
Authority to Declare Vacancy Public heresy is self-evident; the faithful may recognize this fact Only Church authorities can declare the See vacant This is a recognition of fact, not a juridical act of deposition
Supreme Pontiff He is supreme—as long as he is Catholic and validly elected Anyone accepted by the world as pope must be followed Truth and the Faith come **before recognition and appearance
Unity of the Church Rooted in unity of Faith and sacraments Rooted in being visibly under the current pope False unity with heresy is not unity—but apostasy
Historical Precedents Popes like Honorius and Liberius were resisted for error Popes have never lost office or taught heresy History shows popes can err privately—and heretics can be widely accepted
Church Visibility Preserved in valid priests, sacraments, and the Faithful Remnant No pope = no Church = sedevacantism is invisible sect The Church is visible through **Faith, sacraments, and unity with Christ
Scandal and Division Caused by Vatican II errors, not by those who reject them Sedevacantists are dividing the Church Heresy divides—truth unites. We are holding the line
Fruits Doctrinal clarity, valid sacraments, reverent worship Global popularity, media acceptance, “unity” with heretics “By their fruits you shall know them” (Matt. 7:16)
Basis in Theology Rooted in Bellarmine, Cajetan, Wernz-Vidal, canon law Sedevacantism is a modern invention without precedent Sedevacantism applies traditional theology to an unprecedented crisis
Fear of Error We must avoid false obedience, even at great cost Better to stay with the apparent Church than risk schism Staying with heresy out of fear is not fidelity—it’s cowardice

Summary:

We are not rebels. We are Catholics refusing to follow a counterfeit hierarchy preaching a false religion.

We are not judging a valid pope—we are recognizing that public heretics are not valid popes.

The Church teaches that the Faith comes before the office. And anyone who publicly teaches heresy ceases to be a member of the Church, even if he sits on the throne of Peter.

Our “authority” is not arrogance—it is the obligation of every Catholic to hold to the Faith handed down, and to reject false shepherds, even when the world accepts them.

As St. Paul said:

Though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.
— St. Paul, Galatians 1:8
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8.130. I go to Novus Ordo Mass and leave straight away. I don’t see the point of fellowship—it’s mostly gossip, and most people are hypocrites anyway.

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8.132. The Anglican Church allows female and homosexual priests. Isn’t that more inclusive? Won’t the Catholic Church eventually follow?